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Two new 360 pads?

CVG learns two new versions of the Xbox 360 controller are doing the developer rounds
Speaking this afternoon to CVG, Konami's PES producer Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka has revealed he's currently in possession of two new Xbox 360 controllers and is playing around with them at the PES HQ.

Microsoft sent Seabass the two controllers to allow him to test re-mapped button configurations for PES, the best footy game in town, presumably to make the game as playable on an Xbox 360 pad as it is on the PS2.

It's no secret that the best pad to play Pro Evolution Soccer on is Sony's classic Dual Shock.

This also ties in nicely to previous reports that Microsoft has a unique FPS pad in testing for Xbox 360 too.

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Sounds interesting but I don't think they can do much to make a good FPS controller - unless they go the way of the Wii!
ptechg on 4 Oct '06
I wouldn't know about the pad thing. I've never played a football game on PS2, or anything for that matter. They're a waste of good processing power in my opinion, and look incredibly repetitive.
"I just won a match, meaning I've beaten a level and gotten further in the game... what will the next level be like? Oh... it's another match."
Well, liking football is probably a prerequisite of liking football games, and I loath football with a passion.

All I know is that overall the 360 pad is far superior to the flimsy, D-Pad still primary control method, analogue-sticks-in-stupid-positions PS2 pad.

I do remember someone at Microsoft mentioning a revision of the pad to provide more accuracy in first person shooters... wonder how that will be done.
Hopefully not a trackball.
The second pad in development is news to me. I wonder if it's a 360mote, or some sort of motion sensing one.
Since Microsoft were the first to produce motion sensing pads for the Sidewinder series years ago, they won't simply be copying Nintendo like Sony did if they choose to follow the motion sensor fad.
falloutwarchief on 4 Oct '06
obviously my previous reviewer has never played a pro evo 4 or 5 ---- i welcome new pads i think the only thing they cn improve is the dpad --- bring on pro 6
dandoc2 on 4 Oct '06
The prospect of a dedicated pro evo pad is certainly something I'd welcome. As PES is one of the few franchises I buy religiously I'd benefit from something like this without a doubt.
Most of my mates are of the same opinion as well so there does appear to be a market for it.

I've no doubt some people will try and accuse MS of releasing a poor design in the first place but in truth the 360 pad is a great piece of kit. It just can't be all things to all games.

If anything I think MS should be applauded for at least exploring the possibilitiy of offering their customers an alternative which better suits their taste in games.
niksalt on 4 Oct '06
well i love my 360 pad, its really good, all round excellent analog sticks, nice placement of the buttons, great triggers, not too keen on the top shoulder buttons (i.e the old black and white buttons) found them a little hard to use (and mine broke too easy, well half of the button still works, just the half you tend to use dosnt now). if i have one fault with it it's the crap d-pad, since d-pad is used in fighting games, its unweilding unresponsive control, makes what ever 2d games i have played on, unplayble, if MS want to know how to do a d-pad, then look no futher than the jap saturn pad, a true standard bearer in pad design and d-pad.
The_Hun1 on 4 Oct '06
The dual shock pad may be the best way to play pro evo, but it is also a key reason as to why both Pro Evo and FIFA are actually a bit pap.

8 directional control? Assisited through-balls?
Pfah somebody make a proper football game.
Asaron on 4 Oct '06
2 Pads? just hope they actually release one pad that may some how incorporates the features of both. I dont like the prospect of having to have 3 seperate controllers to play certain games.

Current pad is fine except for the horrid D-pad.
ramsingh1 on 4 Oct '06
What next? Will you have to buy a different pad with each game you buy.
steven_h1 on 5 Oct '06
This is just like the Wii's money making sell-two-parts-of-one-controller-seperately. Evil or Very Mad

I'd rather have one universal controller that plays all games than different types of controllers for specific types of games.

Who buys a console and exclusively sticks to one genre?
Dellinator on 5 Oct '06
Damn you microsoft!
They done this with the first Xbox. Whats wrong with the current pad! OK, so it isnt quite as good as the PS pad for pro evo. Who cares. Just bite the bullet. Dont bring out a new pad. Its a money grabbing rip off!
dicksok on 5 Oct '06
This is just like the Wii's money making sell-two-parts-of-one-controller-seperately. Evil or Very Mad

I'd rather have one universal controller that plays all games than different types of controllers for specific types of games.

Who buys a console and exclusively sticks to one genre?

Damn you microsoft!
They done this with the first Xbox. Whats wrong with the current pad! OK, so it isnt quite as good as the PS pad for pro evo. Who cares. Just bite the bullet. Dont bring out a new pad. Its a money grabbing rip off!

You don't actually have to buy this pad... it's merely a "nice to have if you're a PES geek" pad... the standard pad will work fine with PES.

C.
yetiC on 5 Oct '06
Damn you microsoft!
They done this with the first Xbox. Whats wrong with the current pad! OK, so it isnt quite as good as the PS pad for pro evo. Who cares. Just bite the bullet. Dont bring out a new pad. Its a money grabbing rip off!

Where is said MS will force you to buy the new pads just to play new games? because i dont see it anywhere, their talking about 2 new pads to improve overall control in certain games, that arnt well suited to the current pad, they never said these new games wont work with the old pads, just for better gameplay the new pads will work better with PES or a FPS.

Im not bothered with to be honest, i would however buy a deicated 2d pad if they brought one, with 6 face buttons, a good d-pad and 2 shoulder buttons, mainly for the arcade live with all the old 2d games coming out for it, this to me would be heaven.
The_Hun1 on 5 Oct '06
should we start taking bets that one of the new controllers will incorporate motion sensing technology?
kovin on 5 Oct '06
I was thinking about that for the PS3. For fps game if they rigged the look feature of the game into the motion sensors. So looking around actually involved looking around with the controller.
So you'd move around using the standard controls forward/back and sidestep and then using the motion sensing to control head movement and turning.
Would take a little getting used to though.

And as the poster near the start dont know the PS controller, they got it right way back in the psone days. Its still one of the best controller designs around, mainly because its based off a pure ergonomic design. As for the apparent "stupid" placing of the analog sticks, there in the middle because if you let your thumbs rest naturally thats where they fall.
Concerning the dpad, well some games still require absolute movement, turn based rpgs for example where alot of menu navigation is required. And the Dpas is still much more comfortable for that role than an analog stick.
Iricus on 5 Oct '06
should we start taking bets that one of the new controllers will incorporate motion sensing technology?

Laughing

I bet that you get 10000 achievment points if this new controller senses the motion of your fist moving a 100 miles an hour towards a PS3/WII system...
ramsingh1 on 5 Oct '06
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