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Limbo of the lost publisher 'just as shocked as you'
Limbo of the Lost publisher TriSynergy has responded to yesterday's revelation that the point and click PC game had lifted levels straight from Bethesda's Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

Since the original discovery it's also emerged that Limbo of the Lost has "borrowed" environments from Thief 2 (see here and here) and assets from Diablo, Morrowind, UT 2004, Silent Hill and Painkiller. They're in trouble.

"Tri Synergy is just as shocked as everyone else is by the recent screenshot comparisons," the company said in a statement. "At no point during our dealings with Majestic Studios up until the point that the comparison was first publicly made by a third party did we have any knowledge of these similarities. Additionally, Tri Synergy will discontinue distribution of Limbo of the Lost in both retail and online outlets.

"We have contacted the developer, Majestic, and are anxiously awaiting their response. As soon as we know more on this matter we will issue another statement."

A Bethesda representative has confirmed that its legal team is "looking into" the matter. The many other game companies involved are yet to comment.

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LMAO Majestic you bloody idiots!

That's all I'm saying.
MPH on 12 Jun '08
Hmm... Those screen shots are pretty damning.

Really, how difficult can it be to come up with a library set in a fantasy/medieval setting?
_Marty_ on 12 Jun '08
This should probably taken as evidence that fantasy games have been done to death and the world should move on.
kyotu_o_shire on 12 Jun '08
Oh dear! Someone's in mighty big soapy bubble!
wudragon on 12 Jun '08
Laughing Looks like someone grabbed the money and ran. Laughing
ted1138 on 12 Jun '08
It's almost like gathering all the lawyers employed by the world's largest gaming companies, stripping them naked, then flicking in the balls with a wet towel...
The_Louce on 12 Jun '08
Oh dear. Not looking good is it.
Waste_Manager on 12 Jun '08
Looks like when someone said "Get your ideas from the Public Domain", someone at Majestic took this WAY TOO literally!!
Tonyb on 12 Jun '08
Haha, thats hilarious. Surely they didn't think that nobody would notice?

Is this their first game? I've never heard of Majestic Studios before.

I think it might be their last.
SoulChimera on 12 Jun '08
For a company who hasn't done all that much, this is not a good first step. They won't have any cash to pay the lawyers.

I can appreciate using other game assets for a tech demo or PoC, but including them in the full release? Naughty!
Dajmin on 12 Jun '08
Someones in trouble Razz
4eyed Snake on 12 Jun '08
I'm sorry, but has noone noticed - http://www.geocities.com/limboofthelost/
That's their oofficial addy. At geocities! I can get a more official looking site name for free!

Somehow I doubt they'll find these people on their "post development break"...
shlobadov on 12 Jun '08
Has anyone seen the trailer for this game? I laughed all the way though. It looks truly awful, this isnt the same one as in the other thread about this game but is still pretty funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqwNejK2x6Y
$$johnman$$ on 12 Jun '08
Just checked out the trailer, cheesier than a head-on collision between a Wotsit truck and a lorry laden with chedder!

As for the ramapant plagiarism, just wonder if the developer got an advance from its publisher in some form? Because it's clear little to no work has been done on this game, and they've done a runner. Vocals are terrible, character models look poor. Only good thing about it was the surprisingly excellent cut scenes involving the ship. Unless they were stolen as well.

Maybe that's what the problem's been; took too long over the cut scenes and forgot to make a game to go with them!
Aos on 12 Jun '08
lol, just found an ad by Majestics creative director recuiting for the Limbo of the Lost sequel...

http://forum.dead-code.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=b0e78352f700e166392a13094af79e9d&action=profile;u=157;sa=showPosts


damn it, that links to his profile but you can click on his last posts to see it...
jayson_90210 on 12 Jun '08
he was online when I just checked too... "on a break" my eye!
jayson_90210 on 12 Jun '08
Just tried the 'official' web site for 'Limbo Of The Lost'....suprise suprise its not available.

Me thinks, the Majestic development team have buggered off rather sharpish with wads of cash they've conned out of the publishers
potter73 on 12 Jun '08
That trailer is actually hilariously bad, it looks like a Windows Movie Maker job. I do hope that nobody has actually bought this game.
MightyMoose on 12 Jun '08
So, no one has noticed the initials of this game yet?

Limbo Of the Lost = LOL

Laughing
MrLee on 12 Jun '08
So, no one has noticed the initials of this game yet?

Limbo Of the Lost = LOL

Laughing

Yeah and if you were to continue the conspiracy theme - anagrams of Limbo of the lost include words such as Stole and Theft
nee50n on 12 Jun '08
anagrams of Limbo of the lost include words such as Stole and Theft

theFt????
shlobadov on 12 Jun '08
Could we be looking at a huge scam? Haha, that would be brilliant.

Sign contract,
Steal parts of games and slap them togther,
Send to publisher,
Receive money,
Run to Mexico.
SoulChimera on 12 Jun '08
Wonder how Humorguy is going to blame this on Pc Zone/Gamer ?
Andy_Monahan on 12 Jun '08
Dumbasses, did they think no-one would notice?
almanac2015 on 12 Jun '08
OMG, Majestic is in trouble for stealing? What an unexpected turn of events. I genuinly thought they had covered their asses well Mad
Dinalfos on 12 Jun '08
I don't know if it was a joke actually, saw this thread that he's made:
WME SCRIPT PROGRAMMER NEEDED
on: July 15, 2004, 10:58:39 AM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there anyone who would like to join my small team and be the lead programmer for my WME commercial adventure??

Dreamcatcher / Adventure company are really interested in the project.


Here is the link to my projects web site: -

http://www.geocities.com/stevenbovis/LIMBO_of_the_LOST.html


Only serious people need apply.


Email me at -
sbovis@amethystgroup-uk.com


Many thanx


Steve Bovis - Director MAJESTIC STUDIOS


My guess? Him and a few mates got together and convinced some dumb f**k publisher they were capable of creating a great game. A fat cheque landed on their doorstep, which they duly spent (on fags and booze no doubt), they then dossed about for a couple years. Then panic set in. So they slapped together some shoddy mess in the hopes that noone would notice and that would appease the publisher.

Really though, if you're going to rip something off, pick something that had relatively little exposure. Picking one of the best selling RPGs of all time was kinda silly... Smile

Edit: In fact, they seemed to rip off FAR more than just Oblivion and Thief... According to wikipedia:
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Further screenshots and video have suggested that environments and features have also been stolen from Diablo II, Painkiller, Unreal Tournament 2003, Unreal Tournament 2004, Thief: Deadly Shadows, The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Silent Hill 4: The Room, Crysis, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, World of Warcraft, scenes from the 1997 film Spawn, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, and other games and movies.


*shakes head* I really want to laugh, but I feel actions like this will have a seriously adverse affect on genuine, above board, independant developers.
_Marty_ on 12 Jun '08
are we sure it isnt the labour party making this game?after all they steal ideas from everybody else too.
nagashino on 12 Jun '08
If they really have stolen stuff from all those games and movies, I am really curious to see more screenshots comparing to them. Would be fun just picking them all out Smile

I don't think this will be the end of the story either. I look forward to the next chapter Very Happy
kimoak on 12 Jun '08
My guess? Him and a few mates got together and convinced some dumb f**k publisher they were capable of creating a great game.

I think thats what they did too.

However, I think they planned to just copy and paste their way to the end, get paid and then disappear.

Pure scam.
SoulChimera on 12 Jun '08
wow, just noticed something really interesting (well to me anyway)

Steve Bovis' email is from Amethyst Group, Amethyst Group are based in Tunbridge Wells, a quick search for Steve Bovis UK gives results for an Estate Agent called Steve Bovis in Tunbridge Wells! Lol... Busted

http://www.wardandpartners.co.uk/branch-directory/branch-details.asp?BranchID=142


just call me Poirot, or Miss Marple
jayson_90210 on 12 Jun '08
Now its only a matter of time before the only guy with the same name on bebo gets his profile attacked... *laughs evily for posting this comment*
Dracomd on 12 Jun '08
oh I found the following earlier and linked it above too but thought i'd just post it for fun


2D 3D background artist wanted
on: June 03, 2008, 05:34:01 PM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I am on the look out for a 2D/3D background artist for the sequel to LIMBO OF THE LOST. This is a % of royalty position for the right person.
The backgrounds need to be in 1024x768 resolution and the end result is a static 2D image.

Other parts of the job will be for alpha masks and layers within the scenes. Approx 80 backgrounds will be needed, if you can construct in 3D using an editor like Unreal 3 etc all the better.

Logged

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kind Regards
Steve Bovis
MAJESTIC STUDIOS
jayson_90210 on 12 Jun '08
CLICK HERE to see the ugly mugs of the three morons responsible.

After all I've read about this today, I almost feel sorry for them...

Almost.
_Marty_ on 12 Jun '08
Great trailer does look like something a ten year old would make.

This has to be a scam,
good effort by them.

Just noticed the trailer has a grammatical error, "mankind is the one" LOL
olih27 on 12 Jun '08
Could this possibly get more epic?

Read this Interview with Steve Bovis - http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=795

And this quote made me p**s my pants.

Gordon: So have any more recent games influenced your current project?

Steve: The project is more influenced by film and literature rather than other games, we want the experience to be as original as possible and as such we have made a calculated effort to keep away from other games in the genre.
Ludicrouse on 12 Jun '08
So has anyone found anymore comparison shots yet? I would love to see stuff from the other games they've stolen from.
SoulChimera on 12 Jun '08
The fatc thats its been in development for ten years and the end trailers just makes me laugh my ass off
$$johnman$$ on 12 Jun '08
If you've seen the trailer here's some exclusive behind the scenes footage from steve bovis himself! Wow he's really made a fantastic impression for this game now hasn't he?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li6-ewgKupA
glenquagmire on 12 Jun '08
Instant collectors item.
Budly Moore on 12 Jun '08
Man this is getting more and more interesting.

3 mens passion of making a game has turned into a nightmare and a legal deathwish for the 3 developers as seen this article and others on this topic.

http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1&newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1
johnway on 12 Jun '08
Notice that the site banner has create your own oblivion/teaf/etc. I suppose that this news has definitely helped those forums but I'm sure the lawyers for Limbo of the Lost publishers are preparing to jump ship, I know I would.
Anto103 on 13 Jun '08
Man this is getting more and more interesting.

3 mens passion of making a game has turned into a nightmare and a legal deathwish for the 3 developers as seen this article and others on this topic.

http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1&newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1

"The three put their heads together and after three more years of hard work"
Yup - must take a lot of hard graft to cut and paste all that code...

"Our hope, if everything goes well with the sales, is that within a year we will all be stopping the day jobs and doing this full time."
Hah, wouldn't count your chickens on this one. I strongly suspect that Steve Bovis, Tim Croucher and Laurence Francis are names that will NEVER see the light of day with regards to computer games again.

Maybe in the 'Most Recently Bankrupted List' perhaps...

Edit: Oooo, this is interesting...
Steve Bovis, 2005 UK poker winner
vs
Steve Bovis, 2008 UK video game developer
Same person?
According to this, Steve Bovis won $260,000 from poker... Enough cash to flash around and finance an amatuer game me thinks.
_Marty_ on 13 Jun '08
Man this is getting more and more interesting.

3 mens passion of making a game has turned into a nightmare and a legal deathwish for the 3 developers as seen this article and others on this topic.

http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1&newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1

"The three put their heads together and after three more years of hard work"
Yup - must take a lot of hard graft to cut and paste all that code...

"Our hope, if everything goes well with the sales, is that within a year we will all be stopping the day jobs and doing this full time."
Hah, wouldn't count your chickens on this one. I strongly suspect that Steve Bovis, Tim Croucher and Laurence Francis are names that will NEVER see the light of day with regards to computer games again.

Maybe in the 'Most Recently Bankrupted List' perhaps...

Edit: Oooo, this is interesting...
Steve Bovis, 2005 UK poker winner
vs
Steve Bovis, 2008 UK video game developer
Same person?
According to this, Steve Bovis won $260,000 from poker... Enough cash to flash around and finance an amatuer game me thinks.

Heh or Steve Bovis, Tunbridge Wells Estate Agent
jayson_90210 on 13 Jun '08
I am absolutely LOVING this story - I've scoured the internet for articles on it Smile

Looks like Lord of the Rings has become a victim now too....
_Marty_ on 13 Jun '08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFVcqDfJKZo&feature=related
This games looks so unbelievably bad, how can they talk about it with a straight face?
$$johnman$$ on 13 Jun '08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFVcqDfJKZo&feature=related
This games looks so unbelievably bad, how can they talk about it with a straight face?

That trailer is appalling, no doubt.
However, the game itself actually does sound quite good, and I read a fairly indepth review of it which made it sound quite cool, and they scored it 'B' - around 75-85%* If they'd have released this as freeware instead of charging 30 quid for it, they may well have had a massive hit on their hands, which would have set them up nicely for a professional (and all made with their own assets) sequel.



*They have since revised the score to an 'F' because of the stolen assets 'issue', but that doesn't detract from the content of the game IMO.
Speaks volumes about the developers though.
_Marty_ on 13 Jun '08
It got a B?!

The 'Behind the Scenes' bragged about the Characters Lip Sync being a mjor point but I've seen better dubbing in Anime to be fair (yes I watch Anime dubbed)

I still want to play this game though, purely for the experience
jayson_90210 on 13 Jun '08
It got a B?!

The 'Behind the Scenes' bragged about the Characters Lip Sync being a mjor point but I've seen better dubbing in Anime to be fair (yes I watch Anime dubbed)

I still want to play this game though, purely for the experience

Good luck - I predict this game will be more sought after than Wii Fit Smile

And yes it did

Worth reading, if only for the blurb at the beginning *chortle*
_Marty_ on 13 Jun '08

Worth reading, if only for the blurb at the beginning *chortle*

lol, see what you mean Laughing
jayson_90210 on 13 Jun '08
Man this is getting more and more interesting.

3 mens passion of making a game has turned into a nightmare and a legal deathwish for the 3 developers as seen this article and others on this topic.

http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1&newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1

Laughing Gotta love that avatar.
Rebekah on 14 Jun '08
Where can I get a copy?

Imagine Thief, Oblivion, UT etc all in one game! Wow!

Oh, sorry. I'll get me coat...
dogsolitude_uk on 14 Jun '08
I read a review which said, each chapter feels like it was made by different people, well they were, just not credited.
$$johnman$$ on 14 Jun '08
are we sure it isnt the labour party making this game?after all they steal ideas from everybody else too.

Yeah, they get their policy ideas from such luminaries as Orwell, Kafka, David Icke...
dogsolitude_uk on 14 Jun '08
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